Poll to Determine Flat Racing Stats [Voting Closed]

Friday, May 22 at 17:32

πŸ“£ Heads-up: Please read our recent news announcement before this one, as we are referring to information that is published there.

We know that since our last announcement, time is of the essence especially for flat racing breeders. Your stable capacity is limited and you wish to know what stats to breed for. We have made two decisions: The flat racing competition calculation will get reworked to make all stats relevant to all levels, most probably weighed realistically, and the flat racing discipline will not be split. The first decision was made because the majority of our community seemed to agree with it if the numerous comments are any indication. The second decision arose out of coding reasons: We currently do not have the ability to change a horse’s selected discipline, especially not while keeping its training progress. The different amounts of exercises and levels per discipline would complicate things further. It would take a long time to code that kind of thing, and you rightfully want solutions now.

Since we will start using the 4 (or 5) stats in the calculation of all flat racing levels, the current way of scoring will definitely change regardless of which option wins. A horse that is scoring high right now, may not do so anymore in the future, while other horses may improve and yet others remain fairly constant in their performance.

Flat racing will from now on be influenced by speed, acceleration, stamina, and X. X is where the poll comes in. We could not decide on whether sprint, strength, or both stats, should be part of the flat racing competition calculation. There are upsides and downsides of each option. Many of you have asked us for a quick answer, but we were not comfortable making a decision with such far-reaching consequences without consulting you first. The idea for a poll was brought forth by the community and we agree that this is the fairest solution.

The Options

We will now present you with the arguments we heard most often in the last few days.

Please note that, regardless of which option is most popular, we are considering a weighing of stats. For example, if strength is included, it would likely weigh relatively low in the scoring. Sprint, if included, would likely be less relevant than stamina.


Strength was listed as a relevant stat in the old wiki article, therefore you might have been spending years of time and money, in-game and real, breeding for it. You have put trust into the game mechanics and we want to honour that. This is a powerful argument in favour of strength. However, there is a downside as well. If we add strength, we add a whole new stat to the code that had not truly been relevant for flat racing before, which is quite a big change.

Fairness: Strength is already a relevant stat in five out of seven of our current disciplines. Adding it to flat racing would make reining the only discipline without strength. This should give horse breeds with a naturally high strength stat a big advantage in almost every competition. While some players like the idea of such broadly talented horses, others find it unfair and would rather see more specialization.

Realism: Although strength may not be what most people think of when thinking of racehorses, it could be argued that a racehorse needs a strong and durable body in order to withstand the enormous forces at work in a flat race. Thus, it may not be fully unrealistic to add strength.


Though it may not be true for all, several flat racing breeders have told us that while recalculating their herd, switching strength for sprint had only minimal effects on their programs or would even improve them. Based on that, they preferred sprint as the relevant stat. Since sprint is already coded into the first two routines of flat racing, we would stick closer to the original game mechanics.

Fairness: Choosing sprint over strength ensures a bigger variety between breeds and the disciplines. Seeing that strength is already a relevant stat in five out of seven of our current disciplines, it might create too much overlap between them and give breeds with naturally high strength a broad advantage. Whereas sprint is only being used in one other discipline (show jumping) so far.

Realism: Many players make a point of sprint being a more realistic influence on flat racing than strength. This train of thought had also been pursued by us when coding the scoring formula back in the day. Even during the creation of the foundation horses, we have included sprint for β€œracing breeds”. Realism is something we strive for in Horse Reality (within certain limits) and something that many of you would like to see.

Strength & Sprint

Both β€œpro-sprint” and β€œpro-strength” seemed open to the option to add both stats to the flat racing calculation. We were thinking about announcing this one as our team decision, but one thing held us back: Having five stats influence a competition calculation might be tricky. We only have ten GP stats and would like to be able to add more disciplines in the future. Some disciplines already use five stats (jumping, eventing, driving) but the more disciplines we add, and the more stats these use, the more overlap will happen. This could result in some breeds becoming dominant in nearly every discipline, which could set us up for a very boring game in the long-run.

Decision Time!

Please spread this poll far and wide, so that as many Horse Reality players as possible have a chance to participate! This poll is for everyone, whether they breed for flat racing or not, whether they have been around for a long time or only joined recently. You can only vote once, and you cannot change your vote. You have until Sunday, 24th of May, 23.59 HR time (you can check the time in the upper right corner of the game page) to make your decision. After we close the poll we will make sure to investigate possible voting fraud. On Monday, 25th of May, we will publish a news announcement with the results of the poll and further updates.

Final note: When spreading the word please share the link to this news article rather than the direct link to the poll. This is to ensure that people have all the information available before they vote.

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Thank you for your immense participation in the last days! Your feedback means the world to us. Know that we are discussing each and every idea of yours. Please keep bringing them forward! You are the best community we could possibly wish for.


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